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The melon liquor brand you are using could be too acid for the basic spherification.
2 options …
1 – try another brand, Midori works well
2 – fix the PH with sodium citrate http://store.molecularrecipes.com/sodium-citrate-4-oz/The FoodPairing coffee appetizer: Potato chip with Gruyère, Vanilla Oil and Coffee. Learn more at http://www.molecularrecipes.com/?p=7845
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Here are some of the ideas posted on our Facebook page
Frank Centamore Jr: Melted anchovy in coffee for a sauce
Ross Christensen: Ribs rub
Gavin Swonnell: Coffee and confit garlic potato pure with roasted lamb rump and pickled beets works well
Tommy A. Morstad: Buffalo hanger steak w coffee and cinnamon. Chestnuts. Salsify. Spiced cream
Peter Byron Thornhill: Beef tenderloin
Aaron Manter: risotto
Chris Griffin: Jobs coffee cure Kobe ribeyes
In Red Meat Jus, Flexible for lamb, beef, veal etc. I combine star anise with sauteed onions, deglaze with a reduced red wine and meat stock (like a bordelaise) and add the coffee beans to infuse for a few minutes. It’s a wonderful way to complement the meaty flavors.
Philip,
This was a tricky question! I dug around and this is the best summary of the research I found:
basically, as of the writing of the above chapter, scientists still were not sure about all the mechanisms that cause egg yolks to gel at freezer temperatures. However, various researchers had developed solutions to the problem.
Here are the most applicable to the home chef:
- -dope the egg with 2% salt (you’re already doing this, so you could try increasing the salt content)
- -add some papain to the yolks. papain is a naturally-occurring enzyme found in Papaya that breaks down proteins. It’s commonly sold in ethnic markets in powdered form as meat tenderizer. Not sure how much to add, and you may run the risk of the yolks becoming too runny.
- -try “overmixing” the yolks. the chapter mentions this and I’ve noticed the effect when testing scrambled egg recipes. If you toss the yolks in a blender and just beat the heck out of them, they actually lose some of their gelling ability. However, keep in mind that the yolks will be crazy aerated; you could vacuum them if you have a vacuum sealer to get the air out, or let them rest for a while.
A couple of other ideas, off the top of my head:
- -It’s pretty well known that more alkaline egg yolks are more runny. Not sure how this would affect gelation in freezing conditions, but it’s easy enough to try doping your yolks with a little baking soda.
- -The chapter above mentions that cooking thawed, gelled egg yolks at 60°C/140°F causes the yolk to become runny again. You could maybe try pre-cooking the yolks at this temperature; I know that this sort of “tempering” works with chocolate and some vegetables, but I’m not sure if the gelling mechanism in yolks is the same.
- -And of course you could always try creating a themoreversible fluid gel that happened to taste like egg yolk using various hydrocolloids… 🙂
Hope that helps and be sure to let us know how your experiments go.
Hi Mike, thanks for letting us know about the contact us form not working, it is fixed now. Those items would be available in about 2 weeks. Shipping depends on exact address, order weight and shipping type so the best way is to go through the checkout process to get the exact shipping costs. With express shipping it would take about 7 days and sorry, we can’t declare different values.
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The melon liquor brand you are using could be too acid for the basic spherification.
2 options …
1 – try another brand, Midori works well
2 – fix the PH with sodium citrate http://store.molecularrecipes.com/sodium-citrate-4-oz/The FoodPairing coffee appetizer: Potato chip with Gruyère, Vanilla Oil and Coffee. Learn more at http://www.molecularrecipes.com/?p=7845
Attachments:
Here are some of the ideas posted on our Facebook page
Frank Centamore Jr: Melted anchovy in coffee for a sauce
Ross Christensen: Ribs rub
Gavin Swonnell: Coffee and confit garlic potato pure with roasted lamb rump and pickled beets works well
Tommy A. Morstad: Buffalo hanger steak w coffee and cinnamon. Chestnuts. Salsify. Spiced cream
Peter Byron Thornhill: Beef tenderloin
Aaron Manter: risotto
Chris Griffin: Jobs coffee cure Kobe ribeyes
In Red Meat Jus, Flexible for lamb, beef, veal etc. I combine star anise with sauteed onions, deglaze with a reduced red wine and meat stock (like a bordelaise) and add the coffee beans to infuse for a few minutes. It’s a wonderful way to complement the meaty flavors.
Philip,
This was a tricky question! I dug around and this is the best summary of the research I found:
basically, as of the writing of the above chapter, scientists still were not sure about all the mechanisms that cause egg yolks to gel at freezer temperatures. However, various researchers had developed solutions to the problem.
Here are the most applicable to the home chef:
- -dope the egg with 2% salt (you’re already doing this, so you could try increasing the salt content)
- -add some papain to the yolks. papain is a naturally-occurring enzyme found in Papaya that breaks down proteins. It’s commonly sold in ethnic markets in powdered form as meat tenderizer. Not sure how much to add, and you may run the risk of the yolks becoming too runny.
- -try “overmixing” the yolks. the chapter mentions this and I’ve noticed the effect when testing scrambled egg recipes. If you toss the yolks in a blender and just beat the heck out of them, they actually lose some of their gelling ability. However, keep in mind that the yolks will be crazy aerated; you could vacuum them if you have a vacuum sealer to get the air out, or let them rest for a while.
A couple of other ideas, off the top of my head:
- -It’s pretty well known that more alkaline egg yolks are more runny. Not sure how this would affect gelation in freezing conditions, but it’s easy enough to try doping your yolks with a little baking soda.
- -The chapter above mentions that cooking thawed, gelled egg yolks at 60°C/140°F causes the yolk to become runny again. You could maybe try pre-cooking the yolks at this temperature; I know that this sort of “tempering” works with chocolate and some vegetables, but I’m not sure if the gelling mechanism in yolks is the same.
- -And of course you could always try creating a themoreversible fluid gel that happened to taste like egg yolk using various hydrocolloids… 🙂
Hope that helps and be sure to let us know how your experiments go.
Hi Mike, thanks for letting us know about the contact us form not working, it is fixed now. Those items would be available in about 2 weeks. Shipping depends on exact address, order weight and shipping type so the best way is to go through the checkout process to get the exact shipping costs. With express shipping it would take about 7 days and sorry, we can’t declare different values.
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